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Post by Gimpy on Oct 9, 2018 2:14:35 GMT -5
I agree with Glenn assuming the weight is OK. Thru bolt with stainless is weight is a problem.
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Post by Ben on Oct 9, 2018 13:22:23 GMT -5
I had never considered leaving the outside holes empty...
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 9, 2018 18:03:22 GMT -5
I had never considered leaving the outside holes empty... I’d agree they are probably just there to give you options. If it is only 10 lbs 2 bolts should be lots.
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Post by Ben on Oct 9, 2018 23:45:23 GMT -5
As I try to push buttons and turn dials, won't the box rock back and forth without side support?
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Post by glennfrommars on Oct 10, 2018 0:38:34 GMT -5
I doubt it will be a problem. But if you are worried about it, you could tack a 2x4 to each side of the 4x4. Just the length of the box will be more than enough.
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Post by Ben on Oct 10, 2018 3:22:11 GMT -5
I doubt it will be a problem. But if you are worried about it, you could tack a 2x4 to each side of the 4x4. Just the length of the box will be more than enough. I'll try it with the two bolts first. In case that doesn't work, what you suggest is actually the question I was intending to ask - what's the best way to attach a 2x4 to a 4x4? (Sturdily, not just a couple screws through the front.) Is there a bracket I should look for, or should I try to cut a 2x4 sized hole in it? One would think this would be easy, but I don't have any experience in it and want to do it right the first time.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 10, 2018 21:00:47 GMT -5
I doubt it will be a problem. But if you are worried about it, you could tack a 2x4 to each side of the 4x4. Just the length of the box will be more than enough. I'll try it with the two bolts first. In case that doesn't work, what you suggest is actually the question I was intending to ask - what's the best way to attach a 2x4 to a 4x4? (Sturdily, not just a couple screws through the front.) Is there a bracket I should look for, or should I try to cut a 2x4 sized hole in it? One would think this would be easy, but I don't have any experience in it and want to do it right the first time. Carriage bolts of the correct length (1 per) with s large washer on the nut side should be plenty. 3/8” diameter probably lots but use 1/2” if you think you want It sturdier.
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Post by Stan on Oct 11, 2018 8:52:08 GMT -5
The nominal shear strength of a 1/4" bolt is 200#, x2. I think you'll be fine.
I'd probably cut a piece of plywood the size of the box, mount it with 3 or 4 countersunk screws to the stud, then mount the box to the plywood. Overkill; but I like overkill.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 11, 2018 12:47:22 GMT -5
The nominal shear strength of a 1/4" bolt is 200#, x2. I think you'll be fine. I'd probably cut a piece of plywood the size of the box, mount it with 3 or 4 countersunk screws to the stud, then mount the box to the plywood. Overkill; but I like overkill. This made me think of something. What is in the box? There may be guidelines in your local building codes that you’d be wise to read up on as a precaution. They vary wildly by jurisdiction but for example for an electrical box here it cannot be mounted directly on a flammable surface. You have to put a layer of 5/8” drywall between the box and a flammable surface.
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Post by Ben on Oct 11, 2018 22:40:11 GMT -5
It's a pool pump timer. We don't have the same restrictions on electrical box mounting; in fact, there will be a receptacle and switch on the same pole. Also, the pole will be out by itself in a yard, not in a building. I'm going through all kinds of steps to make sure it's up to code though. New York has quite the list.
I'm kinda thinking I might go the plywood route, because I'm an overkill supporter. Is anyone here surprised? lol. I'll just have to make sure it's weatherproof.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 12, 2018 8:01:38 GMT -5
It's a pool pump timer. We don't have the same restrictions on electrical box mounting; in fact, there will be a receptacle and switch on the same pole. Also, the pole will be out by itself in a yard, not in a building. I'm going through all kinds of steps to make sure it's up to code though. New York has quite the list. I'm kinda thinking I might go the plywood route, because I'm an overkill supporter. Is anyone here surprised? lol. I'll just have to make sure it's weatherproof. Good coat of outdoor paint ought to take care of the weather proof. The plywood option is as good as any other suggestion.
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 12, 2018 11:36:49 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails.
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Post by Jim on Oct 12, 2018 11:46:11 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails. Has this PC ever been able to connect to this phone? Maybe a previous password was saved and it's trying to connect to that? Can it connect to other hotspots or wireless networks? Which OS?
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 12, 2018 11:49:56 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails. I actually have to connect my iPhone to my MacBook with a cable to get it to use the Hotspot.
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Post by Dan on Oct 12, 2018 11:54:22 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails. I actually have to connect my iPhone to my MacBook with a cable to get it to use the Hotspot. I thought with Apple you didn't have to use cables? I guess I was misinformed...sorry...
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 12, 2018 12:13:57 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails. Has this PC ever been able to connect to this phone? Maybe a previous password was saved and it's trying to connect to that? Can it connect to other hotspots or wireless networks? Which OS? I'm pretty darn sure I've never tried. I am having issues with the WiFi in the house and trying to prove it's the router.
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 12, 2018 12:14:41 GMT -5
Can anyone think of a reason why a Windows PC can't log on to a Mobile hotspot from an iPhone? It can see it, tries to log on, doesn't ask for the password and then fails. I actually have to connect my iPhone to my MacBook with a cable to get it to use the Hotspot. You're right. If I disconnect the cable, the hotspot disappears.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 12, 2018 15:32:43 GMT -5
I actually have to connect my iPhone to my MacBook with a cable to get it to use the Hotspot. I thought with Apple you didn't have to use cables? I guess I was misinformed...sorry... I honestly don’t know why. My iPad connects to my phone wirelessly no problem but the MacBook won’t. I wondered if it was a security thing or something? For all I know there is some hidden setting that prevents it so you don’t connect to your phone automatically without knowing it when regular wifi is available.
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Post by brandon on Oct 12, 2018 15:57:31 GMT -5
I thought with Apple you didn't have to use cables? I guess I was misinformed...sorry... I honestly don’t know why. My iPad connects to my phone wirelessly no problem but the MacBook won’t. I wondered if it was a security thing or something? For all I know there is some hidden setting that prevents it so you don’t connect to your phone automatically without knowing it when regular wifi is available. Are you signed in the same Apple ID on the Mac and the iPhone? Also, can you see the iPhone's hotspot if you go to System Preferences > Network > WiFi > Advanced?
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Post by brandon on Oct 12, 2018 16:01:14 GMT -5
I thought with Apple you didn't have to use cables? I guess I was misinformed...sorry... I honestly don’t know why. My iPad connects to my phone wirelessly no problem but the MacBook won’t. I wondered if it was a security thing or something? For all I know there is some hidden setting that prevents it so you don’t connect to your phone automatically without knowing it when regular wifi is available. Try renaming the hotspot and see if Windows will see it. Also, keep the iPhone on the hotspot screen when attempting to connect and see if that makes a difference.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 12, 2018 16:38:56 GMT -5
I honestly don’t know why. My iPad connects to my phone wirelessly no problem but the MacBook won’t. I wondered if it was a security thing or something? For all I know there is some hidden setting that prevents it so you don’t connect to your phone automatically without knowing it when regular wifi is available. Are you signed in the same Apple ID on the Mac and the iPhone? Also, can you see the iPhone's hotspot if you go to System Preferences > Network > WiFi > Advanced? Yes, yes and yes. It hasn’t really ever been a big deal to me. It’s my 3rd MBP and they were all the same.
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Post by Stan on Oct 12, 2018 19:14:25 GMT -5
I have no issue connecting my Macbook to an Android hotspot over wifi.I had to go through a few iterations of "do you wanna let this device connect" on both sides. Any chance you are reusing an SSID? I named my dad's SSID the same as my own and it caused me all sorts of grief before I figured it out.
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 18, 2018 12:35:10 GMT -5
 Dan has just posted this meme over on FB. It led me to thinking. Do you guys, & gals, over in the US get conned into buying nitrogen to fill your tyres? It's the latest thing over here. I just laugh at them and ask if they ever studied chemistry at school.
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Post by Jim on Oct 18, 2018 13:02:44 GMT -5
Yeah, it's been a thing for years.
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Post by frodi on Oct 18, 2018 15:29:45 GMT -5
 Dan has just posted this meme over on FB. It led me to thinking. Do you guys, & gals, over in the US get conned into buying nitrogen to fill your tyres? It's the latest thing over here. I just laugh at them and ask if they ever studied chemistry at school. Plenty of wear left on that tyre
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 18, 2018 17:02:10 GMT -5
 Dan has just posted this meme over on FB. It led me to thinking. Do you guys, & gals, over in the US get conned into buying nitrogen to fill your tyres? It's the latest thing over here. I just laugh at them and ask if they ever studied chemistry at school. Yes they do try to sell you nitrogen here too.
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Post by Gimpy on Oct 18, 2018 17:49:54 GMT -5
Regular "compressed" air is actually made up of 78% nitrogen.
'Nuff said
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Post by glennfrommars on Oct 18, 2018 18:15:54 GMT -5
Regular "compressed" air is actually made up of 78% nitrogen. 'Nuff said I bet you are still buying Recaps too!
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Post by Gimpy on Oct 18, 2018 19:05:56 GMT -5
Regular "compressed" air is actually made up of 78% nitrogen. 'Nuff said I bet you are still buying Recaps too! Do they still make them??
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Post by glennfrommars on Oct 18, 2018 22:37:46 GMT -5
Not really for passenger cars, the cheap Korean and then Chinese tires pretty much put auto recapping out of business. There is still a market for large truck tire recapping (drive axles and trailers) and some industrial/farm equipment.
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