I have mixed feelings on this latest plan to divide California. One thing that has irritated me for years is if Southern CA, i.e. the Los Angeles area, wants something up for vote in an election, they get it. The high speed train for instance. Costing us Trillions. Water is diverted via enormous conduits over the mountains from Northern CA. We (N. CA) were under severe water restrictions to the point where we were not allowed to shower, flush toilets, water yards, wash cars, whatever. I went to LA and they were hosing off their sidewalks. Yards were green and glorious. That's just two examples.
In the new plan what would be N. CA which is where I live would have a variety of businesses, agriculture, and entertainment. The LA area would be considered California. Entertainment and businesses. What would be S. CA would be mostly agriculture. Smaller population centers. Deserts. Wide open spaces. I can't see that area would be too excited about being excluded.
Yeah, California, Texas, and even Key West (the Conch Republic) want to become autonomous but it is just a flash in the pan (firearm analogy) and it's not going to happen - none of them are. Just politicians and interest groups throwing off steam in any direction that is convenient - like petulant children. On the other hand:
I wasn't there, but I read U.S. history and I kind of know what happened the last time that a Union secession took place (or attempted to). Didn't work out too well for the rebels (CSA) and in these times it can't succeed with Cali, Texas, KW or any other state or portion thereof. Maybe possessions or protectorates, but NOT states or any part of a state - no matter how much we'd like to lose California.
Hell, they can't even JOIN TOGETHER as is the case with the eastern shore of DELAWARE, MARYLAND, AND VIRGINA - there has been talk of joining that part of the U.S. into DELMARVA so that the contiguous parts of those states can be represented by a more local seat of government. Not going to happen - even though it makes sense...
The CSA wanted to separate from the USA, and I understand that the TX movement is the same, I haven't heard if KW was to become its own state, or its own country. However, the three parts of CA would still be in the US, just as two more states.
I heard one argument against it is that we'd have to re-design the flag, which is also why some people are against PR, GM, and the other territories becoming states. ~rolling eyes~
On the other hand, Puerto Rico (a U.S. Territory) has been messing with this for years. Every election cycle they present three choices - Petition to become a U.S. State, Become completely autonomous (without present U.S. benefits and lose their non-voting representative in Congress, or lastly, leave everything as it is and continue to get the benefits as a territory without the need to assume the responsibilities of statehood.
Every time it is kicked down the road as there is never a consensus of the people - so they remain a territory. Kind of like 'friends with benefits'.
Now there's Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the U.S. Virgin Islands. All of which could petition for 'release' from their 'protected' U.S. status and be their own country - they're not interested at all. Again, friends with benefits'. The Philippines (a former U.S. territory), by contrast, are now their own country (just friends, thank you).
One or more of the U.S. states COULD petition for withdrawal from the Union, but face it - it ain't gonna happen. I think the process would be much more difficult than to convene a Constitutional Convention. And that sure as hell ain't gonna happen either (the bill of rights is here to stay - unchanged). So forget about California pissing and moaning about splitting up or seceding.
Yeah Debby I know, but a LOT of tourists believed it, didn't they (good marketing)? Besides we residents know that Florida and Monroe county wouldn't miss Key West all that much anyway. When the 'pirate ship' would cruise by Mallory's pier at sunset and fire a couple of cannon shots while flying a 'Conch Republic' and Jolly Roger flags it was pretty cool. Besides I bet there aren't 5 people on this forum that has ever heard of 'the 'Conch Republic'.