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Post by Juli on May 25, 2021 9:40:02 GMT -5
My brother (56) and his wife (72) got their first shots the first of May. They weren't planning on getting shots at all, but it's a requirement by the nursing home where her mother is. Well, the day before Mother's Day both were crippled, she still can't walk, she can't leave the house because she can't take the stairs. It turns out the Moderna shot can aggravate rheumatoid arthritis, which they both have. They won't be getting the second shot.
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Post by Jeannette on May 25, 2021 11:34:58 GMT -5
Just curious - did anybody here get sick with COVID?
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Post by MalcolmR on May 25, 2021 12:35:06 GMT -5
Not me personally, the only people I know were the two teenage daughters of my best mate Simon. Not hospitalised, but one is still suffering from Long-Covid.
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Post by martycanuck on May 25, 2021 12:38:26 GMT -5
Not as far as I know (or yet for that matter) though I am golfing this afternoon and one of the guys just called me. His MIL tested positive and he was there last week so he can’t golf and is isolating. His test appt is tomorrow. But it can get close to you when you least expect it.
I did have a mystery illness last March (2020) that felt like the onset of a cold but never got very bad and back then getting tested was near impossible unless you were really, really sick. Lisa had the same. Deanna had bronchitis at the time and did see a Doc and they didn’t even test her for Covid at the time.
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Post by martycanuck on May 25, 2021 12:39:49 GMT -5
Should add one of my cousin’s friends recently died of Covid after a month on a ventilator.
I’ve known of a few others 3rd hand (i.e. friend or family of a friend) who had it. Some recovered, some died.
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Post by Gimpy on May 25, 2021 14:54:11 GMT -5
A couple friends from church had it and one couple he played nurse and never got it. She thinks she's fully recovered too.
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Post by frodi on May 25, 2021 16:56:38 GMT -5
The guy that I bought my bike off is still off work with long Covid 12 months on. More than a few of my patients have had it and a couple have died.
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Post by Juli on May 25, 2021 17:06:12 GMT -5
No one I'm especially close to has had it, a cousin's son and one of my high school classmates are all that I know of. The cousin's son was a marathon runner, pre-COVID. He had at least one heart attack and they think he had a stroke while on the ventilator. It took him longer to recover from being on the ventilator afterwards, than he was on it. He will never be able to run at his former level, and can no longer do any sort of physical work, because he has to carry O2. He keeps saying that with COVID there IS a fate worse than death, surviving it.
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Post by graham on May 25, 2021 17:35:20 GMT -5
Just curious - did anybody here get sick with COVID? I didn't, but my girlfriend did, despite shielding as a vulnerable person (she has severe asthma) for over a year.
She had only been out of the house 18 times during that whole period, but we think that it actually came from a package or some take out food that had been prepared by someone who either didn't know they had the virus or, worse, couldn't afford to take time off when they were contagious 
Interestingly, the night before her symptoms kicked off, we'd been cuddling together during the evening, then, the next night, when it started to affect her, we thought it was her asthma flaring up again, so I spent a lot of time with her, calling the NHS non-emergency line, hugging her and caring for her etc, before the NHS decided that they should send an ambulance.
She'd had her first jab (Oxford Astra Zeneca) about five weeks before, but I didn't get the virus, which is interesting anecdotal proof that the vaccine does help stop you being contagious, since there was very little chance that I was *not* exposed to it.
Subsequently, she's had Long Covid, meaning she's had days when she's been utterly exhausted and simply can't do anything but sleep, also her senses of smell and taste were virtually wiped out, meaning that she's often found it difficult to eat because food doesn't taste right or, worse, tastes revolting.
Not fun at all, but, given that she was told that, if she contracted the virus, she had an 80% chance of dying, it's better than it could have been...
PS I'm due for my second jab in a fortnight, so, a couple of weeks after that is when I'm going to start considering myself "safe" (or, at least, 90% so) from getting it.
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Post by Perry on May 25, 2021 17:52:55 GMT -5
I got Covid. I wasn't sure how I got it. I was about to go on vacation in Feb. when I didn't feel well.
I got tested and it came back as positive. Cancelled all plans. Stayed home. Had everything delivered.
I had mild symptoms so I didn't have to go to the hospital. 2 weeks later it was gone.
I was lucky. I had a co-worker who got it and had to go to the hospital.
Now I'm full vaccinated but still being safe when I go out.
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Post by Drea on May 25, 2021 19:42:25 GMT -5
Several of my teammates at work (and their families) got Covid; but since we were all working from home and didn't see each other in person, it wasn't spread at the office. All had relatively minor cases. My 89-year old father got Covid at his assisted living house (of 8 residents, 2 were negative, 2 were asymptomatic, 1 had symptoms and recovered, and 3 died of it) - thankfully Dad was one of the asymptomatic cases. A few other friends I know got the virus, most have recovered. Other than Dad, nobody else in my immediate family have gotten it and we are vaccinated now.
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Post by martycanuck on May 26, 2021 5:48:07 GMT -5
I’d have expected more of the US representatives to know people who had it. According to statistics 1 in 10 in the US have or had Covid already. Even now there are reportedly (Worldometers btw) about 6 million active cases in the us or almost 1 in 50.
Graham, virus spreading by touching has virtually been eliminated as a means of transmission for Covid. Current thinking is it is aerosol spread primarily if not nearly exclusively. Not that it couldn’t possibly happen another way but with some of the highly contagious variants it could be as simple as walking into a store/building for a minute or two at just the wrong moment. Or if she lives in a flat and has to go through common areas of the building to go in or out.
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Post by mank on May 26, 2021 6:33:40 GMT -5
I had a coworker, age 28, get it. He traveled to Boston from Pittsburgh in a car to help his in-laws pack and move. He violated our company policy that if you traveled out of state you had to self quarantine for two weeks. His in-laws didn't have Covid-19 nor did they catch it. He thinks he got it somehow when he stopped at places to eat or get drinks. He only thought to get tested after he had no sense of taste or smell. He had NO other symptoms. Once he tested positive we were alerted since he was in the office for a day when he was positive. My company Raytheon Technologies brought in a team that disinfected his office that he shared with a co-worker. They also sent the co-worker home for two weeks even though he tested negative. Our office only has 18 people in it even thought Raytheon has over 200,000 employees. Nobody got covid from him. His wife didn't get covid even though they were physically close all the time.
Another co-worker who worked from home the entire time since March of 2020 got covid and he is 45. He is a work out fanatic and got it from going to a gym. He said he was wiped out for two weeks and it was hard to breathe. He is fine now and is back in the office. He is completely vaccinated. Even though he was also close with his girlfriend and his kids nobody else in his family got it.
My daughter-in-law's mother got Covid. She is a nurse in a nursing home. She got covid from patients that had it in the nursing home. She said day 5 was the worse with labored breathing but by day 7 she was feeling much better. Her husband shared a bed with her the entire time she was sick and he never got covid. He was tested repeatedly during her illness but the tests always came back negative.
It seems to me that for whatever reason some people are more susceptible to Covid and the symptoms for each person are different. And, some people can have direct contact with infected individuals and never get Covid.
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Post by Jim on May 26, 2021 6:34:10 GMT -5
One of my uncles was hospitalized and put on a vent. I assume he survived since I never heard anything else about it.
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Post by graham on May 26, 2021 6:46:53 GMT -5
Graham, virus spreading by touching has virtually been eliminated as a means of transmission for Covid. Current thinking is it is aerosol spread primarily if not nearly exclusively. Not that it couldn’t possibly happen another way but with some of the highly contagious variants it could be as simple as walking into a store/building for a minute or two at just the wrong moment. Or if she lives in a flat and has to go through common areas of the building to go in or out. My girlfriend shares a house with me.
She'd not been out for a few weeks before she contracted the virus and she always uses a mask if she answers the door. Also she got it in early March IIRC, which was before the highly contagious versions started showing up.
I haven't had it and, even though I go out to the Post Office regularly, I'm always careful to use a mask and wash my hands when I get back.
There was literally no other route of transmission that we can think of, other than it coming in on a package or a food delivery |
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Post by kellylorraine on May 26, 2021 7:39:34 GMT -5
I've lost track of the number of people I know that have gotten it. Most were lucky and got over it pretty quickly with no lasting effects. Three really stand out in my mind. An old boss of mine got it and died last spring. A friend of mine got it very early on before anyone really knew anything about it and is just now starting to get over the breathing issues it caused. Another friend (an EMT) got it between his first and second vaccine around Christmas. He was (and still is) subject to weekly testing, he tested negative on a Wednesday (standard weekly PCR test) and wasn't feeling well that Friday, so he got tested and was positive. He's still dealing with issues from it and has been ER/hospital a few times with breathing issues. Thursday he went in with breathing issues again and they discovered a pulmonary embolism right at the bottom of the trachea where the two primary bronchi branch off. They said if he hadn't come in when he did, it is very likely he would have died. His symptoms were pretty mild when he had it, but the long-term effects are kicking his ass.
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Post by martycanuck on May 26, 2021 12:01:08 GMT -5
Graham, virus spreading by touching has virtually been eliminated as a means of transmission for Covid. Current thinking is it is aerosol spread primarily if not nearly exclusively. Not that it couldn’t possibly happen another way but with some of the highly contagious variants it could be as simple as walking into a store/building for a minute or two at just the wrong moment. Or if she lives in a flat and has to go through common areas of the building to go in or out. My girlfriend shares a house with me.
She'd not been out for a few weeks before she contracted the virus and she always uses a mask if she answers the door. Also she got it in early March IIRC, which was before the highly contagious versions started showing up.
I haven't had it and, even though I go out to the Post Office regularly, I'm always careful to use a mask and wash my hands when I get back.
There was literally no other route of transmission that we can think of, other than it coming in on a package or a food delivery This isn’t a “scolding” message, but clearing up some things they seem to have grasped about this virus. The “UK” variant which is more transmissible than the “original” was detected in Ontario, Canada in December so variants were out well before that and the Brazil and South African were also spreading by then. Masking helps reduce the chance of an infected mask wearer spreading the disease. At least more than wearing a mask helps you avoid it. Either way it isn’t foolproof. It simply reduces the odds of spreading. You believe you haven’t had it but perhaps you did contract it and were asymptomatic. That’s one of the troubles with this virus. People who think they are healthy can actually spread it to others who’s outcome could be much worse. |
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Post by Gimpy on May 26, 2021 15:21:08 GMT -5
Giving variants names only indicates where they were first detected. It appears that the India variant was duplicated in the USA.
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Post by martycanuck on May 26, 2021 19:55:43 GMT -5
Giving variants names only indicates where they were first detected. It appears that the India variant was duplicated in the USA. Yeah I should have put quotes around all of them. I can’t remember all the numbered references that are the real descriptor. |
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Post by MalcolmR on May 27, 2021 2:37:26 GMT -5
Got my second dose yesterday. No ill effects.
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Post by graham on May 27, 2021 4:17:39 GMT -5
Masking helps reduce the chance of an infected mask wearer spreading the disease. At least more than wearing a mask helps you avoid it. Either way it isn’t foolproof. It simply reduces the odds of spreading. You believe you haven’t had it but perhaps you did contract it and were asymptomatic. I am well aware of all this.
Yes, masks help prevent people spreading the virus, shops here require staff and customers to wear them on the premises. But they do also help prevent the wearer being infected too.
Yes, I know that they're not foolproof, but the odds are greatly reduced, especially when combined with proper hand washing.
Deliveries here are done by Socially Distanced methods. The driver puts the package/ food down on the doorstep, rings the bell then steps back so the recipient can pick it up, minimising the risk of aerosol contamination.
Believe me when I say that I have done my utmost to a) ensure that I didn't contract it and b) even if I had, avoid passing it on to her.
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Post by martycanuck on May 27, 2021 6:47:22 GMT -5
Masking helps reduce the chance of an infected mask wearer spreading the disease. At least more than wearing a mask helps you avoid it. Either way it isn’t foolproof. It simply reduces the odds of spreading. You believe you haven’t had it but perhaps you did contract it and were asymptomatic. I am well aware of all this.
Yes, masks help prevent people spreading the virus, shops here require staff and customers to wear them on the premises. But they do also help prevent the wearer being infected too.
Yes, I know that they're not foolproof, but the odds are greatly reduced, especially when combined with proper hand washing.
Deliveries here are done by Socially Distanced methods. The driver puts the package/ food down on the doorstep, rings the bell then steps back so the recipient can pick it up, minimising the risk of aerosol contamination.
Believe me when I say that I have done my utmost to a) ensure that I didn't contract it and b) even if I had, avoid passing it on to her.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not making accusations. Just floating theories. It is apparently entirely possible for you to have been infected without ever knowing it. |
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Post by Jackie on May 29, 2021 21:01:07 GMT -5
I've lost count of the number of people I know personally who have had COVID. One has died from it. Fortunately neither Reggie nor I have contracted it (well never had symptoms or been tested for it} and are both fully vaccinated now.
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Post by mank on May 30, 2021 15:17:05 GMT -5
I have been out and about quite a bit this weekend and I see that Walmart, Target, Sam's Club, Lowe's, and Giant Eagle (supermarket) have all listed the mask mandate in their stores if you are fully vaccinated. I do see people wearing masks and my assumption is that people are still wearing them even though they are vaccinated. Supposedly, the county I live in is around 60% of the population fully vaccinated. When I look around in the stores I visited this weekend I would say most people are still wearing masks. I did not wear my mask in any of the stores since I am fully vaccinated.
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Post by frodi on May 30, 2021 17:45:14 GMT -5
I have been out and about quite a bit this weekend and I see that Walmart, Target, Sam's Club, Lowe's, and Giant Eagle (supermarket) have all listed the mask mandate in their stores if you are fully vaccinated. I do see people wearing masks and my assumption is that people are still wearing them even though they are vaccinated. Supposedly, the county I live in is around 60% of the population fully vaccinated. When I look around in the stores I visited this weekend I would say most people are still wearing masks. I did not wear my mask in any of the stores since I am fully vaccinated. Being fully vaccinated does not mean that you cannot pass on the virus to somebody else. Mask wearing is as much about stopping transmission as getting infected. Even though you are vaccinated you can still carry the virus and pass it on to somebody who may wish but cannot be vaccinated. |
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Post by mank on May 31, 2021 9:18:55 GMT -5
Frodi,
I do understand. But in Pennsylvania (PA) starting today, Memorial Day, all businesses in PA, restaurants, etc. can operate at 100% capacity now. Additionally, if you are vaccinated you do not have to wear a mask in any business. I had to run to two stores this morning to get a few last minute Memorial Day picnic items and I would say more people were not wearing masks than were. It does amaze me that there was a noticeble difference from yesterday to today regarding the wearing of masks.
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Post by Gimpy on May 31, 2021 9:39:55 GMT -5
We have the same lose the mask if fully vaccinated too and if I go into a supermarket or large store I still wear a mask and was surprised at how few bare faces I've seen.
I'm leaving on a cross country road trip tomorrow across 3 states and plan on a mask as I enter any business.
Our are is scheduled to be mask free June 16 and I'll go bare faced then.
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Post by frodi on Jun 2, 2021 17:09:32 GMT -5
Got my second Astra Zeneca jab this morning. The queue wasn't as long as the first one. No aches or pains or desire to buy microsoft products yet although the 5G signal isn't great around my house.
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Post by graham on Jun 4, 2021 10:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by mank on Jun 7, 2021 7:15:52 GMT -5
I was out and about all over the place this past weekend, Lowe's, Walmart, Sam's Club, and the local private pool where I have a membership. I would definitely say that masks were in the minority. At our private pool there was no social distancing and nobody had a mask. Personally, regarding the pool, I have no problem with that since we are all outdoors and chlorine pools tend to kill almost anything and the CDC believes coronavirus is inactive in pools. Plus, at our private pool you can drink alcoholic beverages and we all know alcohol kills everything!
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