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Post by Juli on Dec 22, 2021 19:24:35 GMT -5
It's the same nonsense as the Tories "Nightingale Hospital" (basicially converted exhibition centres etc) that were set up with a big fanfare, but never did anything useful because the actual hospitals would have had to cut staffing levels elsewhere to operate them Here in the US, we have a few "medical professionals" as well as others who refuse to get vaccinated. Many employers, not just medical, are making vaccination a condition of employment. In my area we have two hospital buildings that were closed before COVID, I'm sure there are others in other areas, in addition to places that could be converted. I've said before that we should reopen the closed hospitals and staff them and the "Nightingale Hospitals" with those who refuse to get vaccinated due to "Mah Freedumbs!" |
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Post by mank on Dec 27, 2021 11:33:05 GMT -5
Where I work, if you aren't vaccinated you are fired.
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Post by Rob on Jan 4, 2022 8:45:02 GMT -5
In September, my mom, dad, my nephew Anthony, his girlfriend Ciera and their son all had Covid. They all live in the same house. It was pretty bad, really took a toll on my dad, and he was still weak for a while after he was no longer Covid positive.
Only my dad and Ciera were vaccinated. For Ciera, it was mild, but for everyone else, it was hell.
Then in November, we couldn't have our traditional family Thanksgiving thing because Covid struck their house again and extended to my sister and niece's house.
Far as I know, still only my dad and Ciera were vaccinated. My mom had spent a week in bed. My dad was weak and exhausted for a while after he was no longer Covid positive.
In mid-December, Covid took a close relative. We called her MK. She was married to my dad's cousin Greg. I grew up with their kids. Our families used to live about a mile from each other and we did all kinds of things together. Camping, hunting, fishing, baseball, bowling, and other stuff.
MK used to pick me up from school when I was "sick" and my mom couldn't get me. She was 65 when she died. We had a graveside service for her. Looked like about two hundred people attended.
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Post by graham on Jan 25, 2022 16:53:47 GMT -5
"Well, yes, 30 people *did* sing Happy Birthday to me during the Lockdown, but that was just a reminder of how long you should wash your hands for!"
- Boris Johson.
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Post by Rob on Feb 11, 2022 13:43:30 GMT -5
Half the people on my Facebook feed are cheering on the truck drivers who are driving across the country in protest of vaccinations. How stupid is that?
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Post by frodi on Feb 11, 2022 15:48:19 GMT -5
Half the people on my Facebook feed are cheering on the truck drivers who are driving across the country in protest of vaccinations. How stupid is that? Never underestimate stupid. |
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Post by martycanuck on Feb 11, 2022 17:12:52 GMT -5
Half the people on my Facebook feed are cheering on the truck drivers who are driving across the country in protest of vaccinations. How stupid is that? Quite stupid indeed. Because this isn’t even what the “protests” are about. They are hapless people caught up in an international scheme to launder money and promote political unrest. You are seeing foreign interference at its absolute best right now. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 11, 2022 18:33:18 GMT -5
Well, yeah. The piss poor state of the bridges in this country are always a topic of discussion when budgets are brought up. This report states there are over 45,000 bridges in poor condition around the country. Remember this one that broke last spring? It'd be funny if the weight of all these trucks causes the bridges to collapse. |
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Post by David on Feb 20, 2022 20:27:35 GMT -5
Not in protest of vaccines. Vaccine mandates. There is a difference.
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Post by David on Feb 20, 2022 20:30:20 GMT -5
Half the people on my Facebook feed are cheering on the truck drivers who are driving across the country in protest of vaccinations. How stupid is that? Quite stupid indeed. Because this isn’t even what the “protests” are about. They are hapless people caught up in an international scheme to launder money and promote political unrest. You are seeing foreign interference at its absolute best right now. You sure about that? How many of those people have you talked to? |
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Post by martycanuck on Feb 20, 2022 20:41:02 GMT -5
Quite stupid indeed. Because this isn’t even what the “protests” are about. They are hapless people caught up in an international scheme to launder money and promote political unrest. You are seeing foreign interference at its absolute best right now. You sure about that? How many of those people have you talked to? Watched lots of them on the news. They’re dumb as posts. Like super dumb. Half grade twelve (i.e. full grade six) educations. Tamara Lich is one of the organizers who was arrested. At a bail hearing her husband appearing trying to be her surety tried to claim “1st ammendment rights.” He’s Canadian. We don’t have a “first ammendment” in our constitution, but you do. These morons with no clue about how Gov’t functions are trying to suggest they can get Trudeau to resign and form their own Gov’t. Doesn’t work like that. Likewise they are calling for Trudeau’s head but most of the mandates they object to are Provincial. These dumb fucks couldn’t fall down a set of stairs without help. The list of stupid things about them goes on and on and on. |
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Post by David on Feb 20, 2022 20:58:15 GMT -5
And as far as the original question, I haven't ever been overly concerned about coronavirus except for the government overreach that I saw from the beginning. Shutdowns didn't help, masks didn't help, vaccines helped some but not everyone. The CDC has become completely political and I think it's all bullshit. Look at what the wannabe tyrant Trudeau and numerous other politicians have done in the name of public health. It's become a ruse to exercise control over normal people. Remember a couple of years ago when it was "two weeks to flatten the curve"? I know you are going to say that "we didn't know" and that's true to a point. But Fauci knew, he helped finance the fucking thing. "Experts" have been moving the goalposts the entire time. I have been around thousands of strangers for the last 2 years without getting sick, but according to the idiot "karma" believers I guess I'm going to die from covid soon because I don't subscribe to the popular religion. Leave us the hell alone and let us live a life.
I also feel confident you will recite numbers of how many people died from covid. I have a family member that I have known since she was a little girl that could have died except for exceptional health care in a non socialized medicine country. So I take it seriously, I just have never subscribed to the fear porn and certainly not to the draconian actions of people that siezed on an opportunity to abuse power.
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Post by David on Feb 20, 2022 21:00:34 GMT -5
On the government run news? I'm sure they were representative of everyone. There are tons of videos out there that show other things than the Trudeau approved narrative.
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Post by martycanuck on Feb 20, 2022 22:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by martycanuck on Feb 20, 2022 22:25:03 GMT -5
On the government run news? I'm sure they were representative of everyone. There are tons of videos out there that show other things than the Trudeau approved narrative. These are the dumbest of the dumb. The most ready to be manipulated and that is exactly what they were. Nothing more. Buncha losers that got taken advantage of. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 21, 2022 16:06:29 GMT -5
Let me rewrite that.
Half the people on my Facebook feed are cheering on the truck drivers who are driving across the country in protest of vaccination mandates. How stupid is that?
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Post by Jim on Feb 21, 2022 22:08:41 GMT -5
It’s not even remotely stupid. It’s nobody’s business but my own when it comes to what I put in my body. If you want the vaccine, get it. If you don’t, don't. The risks are known. Let what will be, be.
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Post by Rob on Feb 21, 2022 23:26:06 GMT -5
All I'm saying is, I hope the bridges collapse under these trucks.
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Post by martycanuck on Feb 23, 2022 17:57:36 GMT -5
Too funny not to share. From the Chicago Tribune.
Dear people of Canada:
Hey there, friends. It’s Rex down in the States. I’ve been reading about the hilariously titled “Freedom Convoy” of truckers and other assorted bumbleheads who are jamming streets in downtown Ottawa and other Canadian cities protesting COVID-19 vaccine mandates and public health measures.
Oof. Sorry you’re having to deal with that nonsense. And I apologize on behalf of my country, as it appears Canada has caught a bad case of the American stupids.
We’ve been dealing with it for a while now — anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers and anti-basic-politeness dodos excited they’ve finally found other selfish people unencumbered by rational thought. But I had no idea it was this contagious. As you all often say: “Sorry.”
I doubt we’ll ever figure out exactly how the American stupids made its way up to you all. Just recently we had an outbreak of anti-maskers threatening librarians here in the Chicago area, so it’s certainly possible that particular strain of the stupids spread northward and pierced your border.
Our American fingerprints are all over the protests you’re witnessing. This description from a Washington Post story says it all: “National monuments were defaced and protesters danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in some Ottawa protests. A Canadian flag featuring a swastika was spotted during television coverage of the protest and Shepherds of Good Hope, a soup kitchen, said staff members were ‘harassed’ and verbally assaulted with racial slurs.”
Overtly racist white people defacing national monuments while simultaneously griping about how put upon they are when they are very much not put upon at all is kind of our thing. It was modeled in grand scale during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol building, a deadly temper tantrum by pretend patriots in thrall to a noted huckster.
So it makes sense that last week Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly called the Canadian protests a “nationwide insurrection driven by madness” and said: “We are now aware of a significant element from the United States that has been involved in the funding, the organizing” of the, again, hilariously named “Freedom Convoy.”
The whole mess started with ginned up anger over the U.S. and Canadian governments requiring COVID-19 vaccinations for truckers entering their countries. I say “ginned up” because the group representing Canadian truckers, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, has disavowed the protests and noted that most of its members are vaccinated.
To that point, most of us in America, like most of you all, are fine wearing masks to help slow the spread of a deadly virus and getting vaccinated to avoid hospitalization or death. The protests you all are seeing are just people in desperate need of a club that will have them opting to fend off the virus by hollering, blowing their truck horns and shouting incendiary nonsense.
A protester in Toronto named Robert, who bravely declined to give his last name, told Reuters: “We’re all sick and tired of the mandates, of the intimidation, of living in one big prison. We just want to go back to normal without having to take into our veins the poison which they call vaccines.”
Ah, yes, one big prison. Trust me, my Canadian brothers and sisters, we hear stuff like this all the time. I wish there was a vaccine that could protect you from the American stupids, but there’s not. Screaming into a bag can help, but it’s only a temporary fix.
If I had to guess, I’d say the dime-store con artists presently getting rich on destabilizing America are eager to do the same thing in your fine country, as their revenue streams bubble up from hot springs of chaos.
Focusing on the protest in Ottawa and noting police estimated the peak turnout there at somewhere between 8,000 and 15,000 people, Sandy Garossino of Canada’s National Observer wrote: “For all the Sturm und Drang, the convoy is an extraordinarily weak national turnout in a country where 500,000 showed up to a climate march in Montreal. Or even 60,000 to a marijuana celebration in Vancouver. Absent the trucks, which are really just big, noisy props, it was essentially a national anti-vax rally, which has now turned so dangerous that police are afraid to break it up. The low turnout is even more surprising in the midst of massive American promotion by those in the Trump orbit, Fox News, Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, Mike Flynn, Joe Rogan and many others.”
Small, loud and obnoxious. Yep, that’s the American stupids, Canada. You’ve got a bad case, I’m afraid.
I’d offer to send some chicken noodle soup or something, but your protesters would likely erupt in claims that “a liberal fake news demon-worshiper is trying to mentally imprison Canadians by delivering vaccine-laden poison soup that will turn everyone into experts on critical race theory.”
Maybe try the screaming into a bag thing. It does help.
Take good care.
Your American pal,
— Rex
Rex Huppke is a columnist for the Chicago Tribune and a noted hypocrisy enthusiast. You can email him at rhuppke@tribune.com or follow him on Twitter at @rexhuppke.)
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Post by martycanuck on May 11, 2022 20:49:14 GMT -5
So Lisa tested positive this morning. Her test showed up slow and a bit faint.
Apr 13 -27th I had something. Never tested positive. Was better for 2 weeks. About a week ago again with sore throat, congestion, cough. Continued to test negative. Then this afternoon I finally tested positive. I was so NOT sick I didn’t really slow down. Today was feeling like the day I was over it. Throat seems a bit more sore again today but we’ll see how that goes. I do have allergies still and it could be unrelated.
My business partner had it in January. He was home sick and isolating a few days and never tested positive until the day he thought he could go back to work. He tested positive after all symptoms were done. He isolated another 5 days after that.
We’re isolating here too.
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Post by mank on May 12, 2022 5:30:46 GMT -5
I received my fourth shot the other day, the Pfizer. The fourth one is another booster. I have friends and family that in the really recent past that tested positive. Most of them thought they only had a cold and a mild one at that. My one friend sounding like she had a bad cold but within 5 days she was over it. I think that seems to be the normal course, 5 days from all the people I know that have tested positive with the newer variant. My guess is as the population gains herd immunity Coronavirus will become similar to the flu where you get a shot every year. It is sad though how it really plays havoc with some people some of whom never recover.  |
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Post by martycanuck on May 12, 2022 8:17:17 GMT -5
I received my fourth shot the other day, the Pfizer. The fourth one is another booster. I have friends and family that in the really recent past that tested positive. Most of them thought they only had a cold and a mild one at that. My one friend sounding like she had a bad cold but within 5 days she was over it. I think that seems to be the normal course, 5 days from all the people I know that have tested positive with the newer variant. My guess is as the population gains herd immunity Coronavirus will become similar to the flu where you get a shot every year. It is sad though how it really plays havoc with some people some of whom never recover.  There is actually no telling what future variants will bring unfortunately. We’re both at 3 shots but where we live we’d have to be a few years older to get a 4th. The threshold may get lowered though. Not really sure what the hold up is as there isn’t exactly big line ups to get a shot anymore. |
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Post by frodi on May 12, 2022 10:45:21 GMT -5
In Ireland the over 65's and the immunosuppressed are getting their 4th shots. Most of the family doctors aren't doing them. This is most likely because when doing vaccinations last year they were snowed under and couldn't do a lot of regular appointments. They got a lot of negative feedback from their patients over this. So this time round it's being left to the mas vaccination centres and the pharmacists.
No complaints from me.
As above if the current mutations stays it will become a seasonal shot like flu. If it mutates to any more virulent strain then all bets are off.
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Post by mank on May 12, 2022 12:14:45 GMT -5
In the USA the fourth shot is for adults 50 or older. I am 62 so I qualified.
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Post by martycanuck on May 12, 2022 12:22:58 GMT -5
In the USA the fourth shot is for adults 50 or older. I am 62 so I qualified. Provincially controlled in Canada and in my province I’m 2 years shy of eligible right now. |
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Post by mank on May 12, 2022 12:58:28 GMT -5
This got me to thinking...
Has anyone had an adverse reaction to any of the shots?
Personally, my wife and I did not have any reactions to any of the shots. I do know the nurses said hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. That isn't a problem for either of us. My wife drinks no calorie flavored carbonated water known as Fruition a local brand from Giant Eagle supermarkets here. She drinks at a minimum 1/2 gallon of that every day. Myself, I drink a couple of cups of coffee every day and then at least a minimum of a 1/2 gallon of diet decaffeinated iced tea every day. We are well hydrated.
I know my son who is a doctor was one of the first people in the country to get the shot. If memory serves over two years ago he was one of the first 50,000 or so. He is a doctor so he was eligible early even though he is a radiologist. The hospital he worked at wanted him to get the shot since he does some procedures where he guides needles etc. into patients. He did feel a bit sick after the shots. He said that is fine because it is just his immune system working. He went on to say that younger people tend to have a reaction to the shots since their immune systems are very active compared to older adults. Older adults tend to have a slower immune system and therefore their bodies don't say hey what the hell is this shot, quoting my son there.
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Post by graham on May 12, 2022 18:02:49 GMT -5
Has anyone had an adverse reaction to any of the shots? I had the Oxford AZ originally.
It left me feeling wiped out the next day (pretty common), but that was it.
My booster was Pfizer, but I don't recall much effect from that.
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Post by Juli on May 12, 2022 20:51:20 GMT -5
This got me to thinking... Has anyone had an adverse reaction to any of the shots? My brother and his wife did have severe reactions to the first shot, it was Pfizer, I believe. They both have severe rheumatoid arthritis, and it caused crippling flareups for them both; my brother had to be hospitalized. This was a year ago. They were told by their doctors that they can't get another shot for it, so they have a supply of testing strips. This past weekend, their daughter and her fiance (getting married in June) were in from PA. Em woke up Sat. morning feeling punky, so they tested her, and she is positive. Mom and I both have had our 3rd shot (1st booster), I am thinking we should get a 4th before the wedding. After the first one, Mom and I both had warm spots on our arms at the injection sites that lasted over a week, and she felt a bit tired for a few days, but that was it, and the other two were no issues. |
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Post by Jim on May 13, 2022 10:54:48 GMT -5
Indirectly, Bill's first shot lead to his cancer diagnosis.
At first, he thought he had Covid Arm. When the didn't go away he thought it was bursitis. When the pain still didn't go away he got his diagnosis. Obviously, the shot didn't cause the cancer but the pain from it pushed him over his pain tolerance level to the point he could no longer dress himself.
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Post by martycanuck on May 13, 2022 12:06:16 GMT -5
My first was the AZ shot. I had an overnight of chills and aches but was fine after. F/U shots were Pfizer for 2nd and Moderna for 3rd. No reaction to either.
My daughter came out worse. Not confirmed but suspected that her Dermatomyositis was triggered by the vaccine. She did have a strong reaction day after the shot too. She may have been prone to developing DM but it is a rare condition and really, really rare at her age. It’s chronic. She’ll be battling it for the rest of her life. She’s basically allergic to the sun now. She will be at a very elevated risk for cancer for the rest of her life too.
My wife’s sister is now actually being investigated and tested for the same condition now having had a long mysterious illness that has yet to be diagnosed.
My daughter in law had a very strong reaction to the vax each time she got it and after the last booster she developed a migraine that persisted for a few months and had seizures. They did xrays, catscans and MRI’s to see if they could sort it out. The headaches have eased but she’s on a very specific diet now to avoid any trigger foods that could set them off again. The seizures have thankfully ceased and her Doc reinstated her drivers license recently.
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