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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 15, 2021 12:24:48 GMT -5
So what's the concept? The OpSys doesn't live on your computer, you just download the bits you need on a daily basis? Frees your system up from a load of bloatware?
Or are we returning to the 1980's when we had remote terminals hooked up to 'mainframes'?
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Post by Jim on Jul 15, 2021 13:05:57 GMT -5
From what I've read, it's mostly like a RDP Session into a remote server. I'm sure some data is local, but, most of it is in the MS Cloud.
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Post by mank on Jul 22, 2021 5:43:54 GMT -5
Windows 365 I forget where we were talking about operating systems recently, but, I mentioned that there were rumors that Micro$oft was going to $witch to a $oftware as a $ervice model. Window$ 365 launche$ next month. Where I work, Raytheon, we switched to Office 365 back in May, maybe sooner. There are some subtle differences in all of the applications, Word, Excel, PowerPoint. The OS we run is Microsoft Windows 10 Pro. |
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Post by Jim on Jul 22, 2021 7:40:38 GMT -5
Office 365 and Windows 365 are totally different applications. The only thing in common is they're cloud connected.
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Post by mank on Jul 23, 2021 3:27:11 GMT -5
Office 365 and Windows 365 are totally different applications. The only thing in common is they're cloud connected. Jim, We don't store anything in the cloud where I work. It violates our cyber security policies since we have do a lot of work with defense contracts and nuclear power plants. All of our data is stored on our own servers. Trying to store our proprietary work data in the cloud is a good way to get one suspended or even fired depending on what you tried to upload. We receive extensive training all the time about cloud usage. We sign statements that say if we violate policies we will be suspended or terminated. |
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Post by Jim on Jul 23, 2021 7:03:38 GMT -5
If you're using 365, you're using cloud services. Guaranteed. That's how 365 is configured.
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Post by mank on Jul 26, 2021 14:56:49 GMT -5
If you're using 365, you're using cloud services. Guaranteed. That's how 365 is configured. Jim, We have an option to save to the cloud for our files but we have specific instructions not to. I guarantee that our proprietary data is NOT being stored in the cloud. And anyone who tries to save to the cloud can be reprimanded or fired. We have strict guidelines and training we follow. |
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Post by frodi on Jul 27, 2021 8:30:34 GMT -5
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 27, 2021 9:53:20 GMT -5
"In July 2015, it took about 20 soldiers almost nine hours to extract the Panther tank - which was without its tracks - from the residential property and push it onto a low-loader for transportation." Push it onto a low loader? I'm impressed. |
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Post by martycanuck on Jul 27, 2021 13:38:05 GMT -5
Not your typical souvenir! |
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 27, 2021 15:16:02 GMT -5
Not your typical souvenir! Lord knows what I've got in the nether regions of my cellar, but I think I would have noticed a tank, or a torpedo. |
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Post by graham on Jul 27, 2021 16:09:45 GMT -5
I'm reminded of this wonderful scene from the film Hot Fuzz  |
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 29, 2021 5:26:19 GMT -5
 These pictures of Lake Mead are in today's UK press. But recently we have seen these reports of flooding in the SW of the country. Now, I understand that this water shortage has compounded over the years, and one flood ins't going to fill the lake, but I have a question about usage. Press reports talk of the green and verdant area around the cities of Nevada and California, because everyone is watering their lawns. Do these folks pay for their water? In the UK, we used to pay water rates, if your property was connected to the public supply. This was a fixed charge levied every year on the approximate value of your house. Many fiscal changes to our economy meant that this had to be stopped, and the water companies began to install water meters for each house. It's a long process and not everybody has one, I don't, yet. But when you start to pay for your water by the gallon, the ides of a green, luscious lawn in the height of a hot summer becomes less attractive. How to those SouthWest home owners pay for their water? |
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Post by graham on Jul 29, 2021 6:31:01 GMT -5
Many fiscal changes to our economy meant that this had to be stopped, and the water companies began to install water meters for each house. It's a long process and not everybody has one, I don't, yet.
There are two of us living in this house, no kids, so we don't run lots of washing machine cycles, no dishwasher, a shower rather than a bath, we don't water the garden with hoses etc.
At a rough estimate, our water bills are at least half what they would be if we were not on a meter.
Also, of course, it means that people don't treat water as a limitless resource that just comes out of the tap any time you need it with no consequences until, suddenly, it stops coming...
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Post by Jeannette on Jul 29, 2021 6:54:35 GMT -5
It honestly depends on the area you live in whether you pay for water or not. Most major cities I would say have a public water supply that people pay to use. Most rural places probably not. I don't know the area around Lake Mead but imagine most of it is a public water system.
I'm on a well but about 2 miles from me is a public water supply. About 20 years or so ago a large aquifer was found near my town and 2 or 3 surrounding towns went in together to fund a public water supply. In our town if you were on the roads where they brought the water infrastructure through you had to hook up to it. Since everybody was on a well and the hookups to the system cost about $20k per household, plus a monthly fee, people were not happy. The township did let people keep their well but it was to be used only for non-household stuff, ie watering lawns.
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 29, 2021 7:04:00 GMT -5
f you have more bedrooms that people in your house, a meter may well be worth getting, I have a bath every day and have a large garden. No thanks. |
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Post by martycanuck on Jul 29, 2021 8:09:52 GMT -5
We’ve had water meters for as long as I can remember. We pay by usage.
I don’t “not” water my lawn to save money but rather just to conserve water.
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Post by frodi on Jul 29, 2021 17:10:09 GMT -5
A long time ago there was water rates here in Ireland. The money was supposed to go for the upkeep of the water network. They were abolished for political purposes (ie votes) and the upkeep was the responsibility of local councils but funded from central taxes. Needless to say the cheapskates in govt kept cutting back on the amount and as a result the system fell into disrepair.
A few years ago as a result of austerity from the EU following the 2008 crash and attempt was made to re-introduce water charges. The first step was putting water meters outside every house. This was met with uproar and mass civil unrest. Mass meeting, protests and blockading the meter installers and a riot or two. It was seen, correctly in my view as a start of privatising the water "industry". There was plenty of examples from around the world of what privatisation can lead to and we weren't having none of it.
The end result was the govt ran scared and cancelled it and made promises of no domestic charges. However the damage was done. The rise of left wing activists is now irreversible so much so that the two centre right parties who usually would get over 60% of the vote between them now could barely manage 40% together.
The water supply is in a shambles. Over 40% is lost through leakages. In Dublin in particular most of the network is Victorian (over 100 years old) and up to 50 different sizes of pipework. To replace just the old part would mean disrupting the city for 3-5 years. Water capacity runs regularly at over 90% of supply and is heavily dependent on just one river. Plans to take water from the river Shannon about 70 miles from Dublin which regularly floods have brought howls of protests from farmers and local interests.
And don't get me started on the sewage problem.
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Post by Stan on Jul 29, 2021 17:24:05 GMT -5
Western US water rights are a law unto themself. I have a well, I'm allowed to run water in the house; but not outside. I can carry a bucket outside to water my flowers or wash my car. I cannot use a hose. I'm not even allowed to collect rain water running off my roof (belongs to someone else downstream).
That said, I do wtf I want. There's no one up here to enforce water rights and if there were, they'd have better things to do.
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Post by Juli on Jul 29, 2021 20:51:16 GMT -5
Many people in those particular communities out west are quite wealthy, and can afford to have real lawns instead of large rock gardens or sand, or at least they choose to spend money in that direction. A few years ago, there was a particularly rough drought in California. Tom Selleck was caught on CCTV "stealing" water from a fire hydrant, ostensibly to water his avocado orchard.
I have just over 5 acres, there is no way I'm watering my "lawn" and the trees in times of drought. There is an aquifer here. When we moved here, there was no city water out this way, so my parents had a well drilled. Just about the time that the city ran a line out the road in the '90s, the Jacuzzi failed, so my parents decided to tie in to the line. The bill for my mom and me runs $31.50/month for water only (have septic system), and that is because it's the minimum that they charge. We don't use that much, over all.
Over the years we've noticed that this particular town and close environs tend to get more rain than other areas of this state, due to topography and other things. One year we were having a particluarly bad drought. My Dad and I were at a state apple growers convention, and everyone was bemoaning the lack of rain. We listened to some of the others, and realized that we had gotten up to twice as much rain over the previous several months compared to others.
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Post by martycanuck on Jul 30, 2021 5:51:48 GMT -5
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Post by Bomber on Jul 30, 2021 15:14:46 GMT -5
Here in Long Beach, NY, we pay for water as we use it, but the amount that we pay also includes "sewer tax". The next-door community also uses Long Beach water, but several homes have installed a second water meter for their sprinkler systems. The agreement with Long Beach was that the water for their lawns does not go into the sewers, so any water from the 2nd meter is not subject to the sewer tax.
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 30, 2021 16:00:22 GMT -5
water for their lawns does not go into the sewers, so any water from the 2nd meter is not subject to the sewer tax. Now that is a bloody good scheme. |
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Post by martycanuck on Jul 30, 2021 22:57:18 GMT -5
Here in Long Beach, NY, we pay for water as we use it, but the amount that we pay also includes "sewer tax". The next-door community also uses Long Beach water, but several homes have installed a second water meter for their sprinkler systems. The agreement with Long Beach was that the water for their lawns does not go into the sewers, so any water from the 2nd meter is not subject to the sewer tax. Weak argument. Doesn’t the run off from watering your lawn get into the storm sewers? That run off can be more polluting than sewage. |
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Post by MalcolmR on Jul 31, 2021 5:32:08 GMT -5
Doesn’t the run off from watering your lawn get into the storm sewers? You only water your lawn when the ground is bone dry. There's no way it is going to get as far as the storm drains. And, storm drains are only harmful when there has been so much rain that it gets mixed with the foul sewerage. I stand by my original comment. |
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Post by graham on Jul 31, 2021 5:44:52 GMT -5
The agreement with Long Beach was that the water for their lawns does not go into the sewers, so any water from the 2nd meter is not subject to the sewer tax. We have something similar here in the UK, whereby if you have water that doesn't drain into the sewers (eg if you have a soakaway or it runs into a river) you can get a discount on the Sewerage Charges:
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Post by MalcolmR on Aug 9, 2021 6:48:58 GMT -5
From the "He's Dead" topic: Just a good guy and a decent politician. Now that's not something you read very often! |
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Post by martycanuck on Aug 9, 2021 8:11:06 GMT -5
From the "He's Dead" topic: Just a good guy and a decent politician. Now that's not something you read very often! I know but honestly I can’t think of a time when anyone had anything really bad to say about the guy. He just quietly went about doing his job and did it well. |
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Post by martycanuck on Aug 9, 2021 11:25:03 GMT -5
This one reeks of being a set-up. A man is jailed for a crime and is put in the same cell as the man who sexually molested the first guys younger sister. He killed the sexual predator. Can’t say I am surprised. apple.news/APmf65EgcTPqsfDQXLQBJOQ |
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Post by martycanuck on Aug 9, 2021 11:59:39 GMT -5
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