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Post by martycanuck on Oct 2, 2020 18:44:12 GMT -5
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Post by mank on Oct 2, 2020 22:08:42 GMT -5
It isn't fake news. He is at Walter Reed Hospital. I see that people who support him are camped out at Walter Reed.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 2, 2020 22:44:27 GMT -5
It isn't fake news. He is at Walter Reed Hospital. I see that people who support him are camped out at Walter Reed. Not arguing, I don’t think anyone said that was fake news? I may have speculated that DT is enough of a lowlife that he’s pulling a desparate charade to try and save his campaign from defeat though.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 2, 2020 22:46:12 GMT -5
BTW I have been hearing from someone in the medical community. He has info that DT requested the transfer because he’s scared. Also that an Aide has been quoted saying “it is pretty serious.”
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Post by Stan on Oct 3, 2020 8:43:25 GMT -5
There's no shortage of rumors and conspiracy theories going around. Donald Trump is an obese 74 year old with heart issues (from his physical). He's at high risk, regardless of anything else. He ought to be scared.
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Post by mank on Oct 3, 2020 10:06:47 GMT -5
It isn't fake news. He is at Walter Reed Hospital. I see that people who support him are camped out at Walter Reed. Not arguing, I don’t think anyone said that was fake news? I may have speculated that DT is enough of a lowlife that he’s pulling a desparate charade to try and save his campaign from defeat though. Marty, Come on of course you are disagreeing with me. I expect no less from you. In a previous post you said "It may turn out to be a fake or even a false positive yet. I have no faith that this White House would tell the truth on anything. " And, he won't be defeated. Trump 2020 Invanka 2024
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Post by Rob on Oct 3, 2020 10:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by Stan on Oct 3, 2020 17:16:15 GMT -5
I take that to be their indictment schedule.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 3, 2020 21:54:42 GMT -5
Not arguing, I don’t think anyone said that was fake news? I may have speculated that DT is enough of a lowlife that he’s pulling a desparate charade to try and save his campaign from defeat though. Marty, " And, he won't be defeated. Trump 2020 Invanka 2024 That must make you feel so ashamed. Bazinga!
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Post by mank on Oct 4, 2020 17:02:00 GMT -5
Marty, " And, he won't be defeated. Trump 2020 Invanka 2024 That must make you feel so ashamed. Bazinga! Ashamed of what? I am not ashamed of anything. If I was voting for Biden then I would be ashamed.
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Post by mank on Oct 4, 2020 17:11:13 GMT -5
On another note...
There are supporters waving flags outside of Walter Reed hospital wanting Trump to get better. I have to admit I am surprised and there are more people than I expected. Some of those people have camped out overnight.
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 5, 2020 7:04:52 GMT -5
And Trump gets in a car to drive by and wave at them. Christ, his advisors must be idiots, or he ignores them.
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Post by Gimpy on Oct 5, 2020 9:24:01 GMT -5
Properly phrased: "The idiot ignores them"
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 5, 2020 11:57:40 GMT -5
Kayleigh McEnany the latest WH person to test positive.
I guess they still don’t get the “if you’ve been in close contact with someone who’s tested positive you should self-isolate 14 days” thing. Then again Trump ignores all suggestions about slowing the spread too so why would his little-bimbo shill be any different. She should have been in self-isolation since Thursday at least. Instead she spent 4 more days walking around being contagious and undoubtedly spreading it to more people.
I wonder, and this is an honest and earnest question, does the US Gov’t or current Admin have a plan in place for what now looks like a real possibility that every senior member of the Admin fell ill and unable to perform their duties simultaneously? No snark intended but this is now a real possibility. I know they have plans to have the Veep take over if the President is down but what if Pence get sick now too?
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 5, 2020 12:04:20 GMT -5
but what if Pence get sick now too? Are you President of your company Marty? If you've got experience, perhaps they'll give you the job for a while. (Of course, you'd need a fake birth certificate. I know a bloke whose brother used to drink with a chap whose sister-in-law was born in Hawaii. Her father looks a bit like you.)
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Post by mank on Oct 5, 2020 12:27:31 GMT -5
Trump has still been working through his illness and signed something regarding immigration. If he and the vice-president are incapacitated then, God forbid, Nancy Pelosi is in charge if I remember my civics class correctly.
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Post by Rob on Oct 5, 2020 14:05:10 GMT -5
but what if Pence get sick now too? If the President and Vice President are both unable to work, then the Speaker of the House becomes Acting President.
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Post by graham on Oct 5, 2020 17:11:48 GMT -5
A little background: Dido Harding was CEO of mobile phone provider TalkTalk when they were hacked in 2015. The company lost around £77 million as customers went elsewhere, but they were only fined £400,000 Now, after Boris Johnson put her in charge of the UK's "world beating" Track and Trace over 16,000 COVID-19 cases have gone missing after the UK Government gave £12 billion of our money to a company who decided the best way to run the system was on an Excel spreadsheet with one case per *column*, meaning it maxed out after 16,384 cases!!! grahamcluley.com/covid-19-cases-excel-spreadsheet-snafu/
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 5, 2020 17:14:44 GMT -5
but what if Pence get sick now too? Are you President of your company Marty? If you've got experience, perhaps they'll give you the job for a while. (Of course, you'd need a fake birth certificate. I know a bloke whose brother used to drink with a chap whose sister-in-law was born in Hawaii. Her father looks a bit like you.) Nope, just a lowly Veep at my company.
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Post by mank on Oct 6, 2020 6:00:18 GMT -5
Marty,
I would say that life itself is a risk. You can literally get hit while crossing the street. That happened to two friends of ours while in New York earlier this year. They were crossing the street at a crosswalk legally and somebody ran a red light and struck them. The one woman suffered only some bruises and a concussion while the other woman had a concussion and her leg literally exploded. She has had quite a few surgeries now with rods and halos all around her leg. She recently got those off and has quite a bit of physical therapy to try to walk normally. She will probably have a permanent limp the rest of her life and limited mobility. This woman was an avid hiker and those days are most likely gone now.
My point being you just never know... We have little control over most things. As my grandson says, "I like to be dangerous". I take all the necessary precautions too when it comes to Covid, mask hand sanitizer, etc., etc. but I have gone back to my workplace voluntarily. As I mentioned in the past we have a ton of protocols we follow and our filtration system now uses Merv 13 filters, the same as I use at home. Going back to work for me but normalcy back into my life. As of May 15, 2020 I worked 40 years professionally. I got up, showered, dressed, and went to work for those 40 years. In March that all stopped. I have been back to work now for over two months and following the protocols, thermal screening, masks, hand sanitizer, wiping down my work area with alcohol wipes before I leave for the day has really reduced any risk. At work we are all at least six feet away from each other. All desks have been rearranged to keep socially distant and my office only has 18 people in it although I work for a corporation Raytheon, that has 200,000 employees.
My wife works at a local private school that has kid from kindergarten to 12th grade and they have been back to work for over a month now too. They have protocols in place, which are more stringent than my workplace protocols and not one person, including students, have been infected with Covid.
Also, we have been to a few restaurants now too and it seems everybody is following the rules. If people follow the rules I think we are safe.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 6, 2020 7:56:40 GMT -5
Marty, I would say that life itself is a risk. You can literally get hit while crossing the street. That happened to two friends of ours while in New York earlier this year. They were crossing the street at a crosswalk legally and somebody ran a red light and struck them. The one woman suffered only some bruises and a concussion while the other woman had a concussion and her leg literally exploded. She has had quite a few surgeries now with rods and halos all around her leg. She recently got those off and has quite a bit of physical therapy to try to walk normally. She will probably have a permanent limp the rest of her life and limited mobility. This woman was an avid hiker and those days are most likely gone now. My point being you just never know... We have little control over most things. As my grandson says, "I like to be dangerous". I take all the necessary precautions too when it comes to Covid, mask hand sanitizer, etc., etc. but I have gone back to my workplace voluntarily. As I mentioned in the past we have a ton of protocols we follow and our filtration system now uses Merv 13 filters, the same as I use at home. Going back to work for me but normalcy back into my life. As of May 15, 2020 I worked 40 years professionally. I got up, showered, dressed, and went to work for those 40 years. In March that all stopped. I have been back to work now for over two months and following the protocols, thermal screening, masks, hand sanitizer, wiping down my work area with alcohol wipes before I leave for the day has really reduced any risk. At work we are all at least six feet away from each other. All desks have been rearranged to keep socially distant and my office only has 18 people in it although I work for a corporation Raytheon, that has 200,000 employees. My wife works at a local private school that has kid from kindergarten to 12th grade and they have been back to work for over a month now too. They have protocols in place, which are more stringent than my workplace protocols and not one person, including students, have been infected with Covid. Also, we have been to a few restaurants now too and it seems everybody is following the rules. If people follow the rules I think we are safe. Sounds like you are doing a good job Mank. The real problem is that there seems to be a lot of people in your country that don’t share the same level of caution as you do. Remember always that wearing a mask protects others from you spreading the disease considerably more than the other way round. Just like crossing a street and getting hit by a car it only takes one careless person (for example, the President) who refuses to follow these guidelines and spreads the virus to unsuspecting people such as yourself. Do I make a big deal of the virus threat? Yes I do because it is really, really easy to let your guard down a little because you feel like you are doing enough to stay safe. Then bam, it gets you. Very sad about your friends crossing the street legally. Now I’m not trying to shift any blame for that. The car running the red is at fault. But to make a comparison to the virus precautions did they see the green light, assume it was safe and cross or did they still look both ways? Could they have seen the car coming that didn’t look like it would stop? Just as we trust if our light is green it is safe to cross the road it isn’t always true. In the same way wearing a mask does not make it 100% safe (and you seem to accept that so this is not an argument about where you and I stand on the issue) to be in public all the time. DT tried to hide the virus threat from the public and still is. He thinks that is helping the stock market. He’s only doing it to make sure he gets himself a 2nd term. In the long run I personally think if he’d encouraged masking, social-distancing and other preventative measures sooner he could probably have protected the economy a lot better than he has. Before you say “But the markets are up” though remember this is a long way from over. We’ve barely begun our fight against Covid. You think I’m out to tell you how wrong you are. I look at it in another way. I’m a person who knows your friends about to cross the street in NYC and I am there and see the speeding car coming and try to stop them from crossing.
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Post by Gimpy on Oct 6, 2020 9:17:37 GMT -5
Any house cat has more responsibility than Trump and you know cats don't give a damn. He doesn't care who he endangers as long as he gets camera time.
Our national leader is a treat to all society!
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Post by mank on Oct 6, 2020 9:27:39 GMT -5
Marty,
The car was speeding they were in the middle of the cross walk and the speeding driver went out of control. The car plowed into a lot more people than just our friends. I was just trying to show that you can take all the precautions in the world but you can still get hit buy the "proverbial" bus. If it is your time then it IS your time precautions be damned!
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Post by graham on Oct 6, 2020 12:03:08 GMT -5
Getting hit by a speeding car is not contagious.
If you get hit, it doesn't mean your family, friends and co-workers are also going to be at risk of getting hit...
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 6, 2020 18:04:50 GMT -5
Marty, The car was speeding they were in the middle of the cross walk and the speeding driver went out of control. The car plowed into a lot more people than just our friends. I was just trying to show that you can take all the precautions in the world but you can still get hit buy the "proverbial" bus. If it is your time then it IS your time precautions be damned! Was there a big “whoooooooshhiiinng” sound as the point went right over your head?
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Post by mank on Oct 7, 2020 5:27:42 GMT -5
Marty, The car was speeding they were in the middle of the cross walk and the speeding driver went out of control. The car plowed into a lot more people than just our friends. I was just trying to show that you can take all the precautions in the world but you can still get hit buy the "proverbial" bus. If it is your time then it IS your time precautions be damned! Was there a big “whoooooooshhiiinng” sound as the point went right over your head? No, Marty, There wasn't. You made some statement about looking both ways, was the light green, etc., etc. I take that as you blaming my friend for her tragedy. I take that as an insult not only to me and saying it went over my head but now you are insulting my friend. As usual you took my point and twisted it. I am so done with responding to you. It does NOT matter what I post you disagree and that is fine it is your prerogative. As I have said I could post about kittens, puppies, and sunshine and you will turn it into something Trump did wrong, and in this case my friend who is crippled. Yes, it is all her fault what was she doing crossing the street legally with 30 or more people. And the irony of it all is you have no say so in this country. You don't vote here. How about fixing Canada's problems first and after that move to the United States and fix ours. Prayers for you Marty to be safe and happy.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 7, 2020 7:00:27 GMT -5
Was there a big “whoooooooshhiiinng” sound as the point went right over your head? No, Marty, There wasn't. You made some statement about looking both ways, was the light green, etc., etc. I take that as you blaming my friend for her tragedy. I take that as an insult not only to me and saying it went over my head but now you are insulting my friend. As usual you took my point and twisted it.
I am so done with responding to you. It does NOT matter what I post you disagree and that is fine it is your prerogative. As I have said I could post about kittens, puppies, and sunshine and you will turn it into something Trump did wrong, and in this case my friend who is crippled. Yes, it is all her fault what was she doing crossing the street legally with 30 or more people. And the irony of it all is you have no say so in this country. You don't vote here. How about fixing Canada's problems first and after that move to the United States and fix ours. Prayers for you Marty to be safe and happy. That would be the whoosh moment then. I wasn’t blaming your friends. I was trying to explain that I’m the type of person who if given an opportunity to try and prevent a tragedy I would do that, hence my criticisms of Trump who will go down in history as the most incompetent President the US has ever had. ETA - The US socio/economic conditions do spill over to Canada. Hence one reason why we take more interest in your politics than you do in ours. Likewise I am a US business owner. No I don’t get a vote for that but it certainly does make me much more interested in something stable which you do not have now. Frankly, if someone on the outside looking in has this much interest in what happens to your government you might consider the possible reasons why. Included in that is not wanting to see all my US friends finding themselves in a terrible situation that could have been prevented.
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Post by martycanuck on Oct 7, 2020 12:26:47 GMT -5
Was there a big “whoooooooshhiiinng” sound as the point went right over your head? No, Marty, There wasn't. You made some statement about looking both ways, was the light green, etc., etc. I take that as you blaming my friend for her tragedy. I take that as an insult not only to me and saying it went over my head but now you are insulting my friend. As usual you took my point and twisted it. I am so done with responding to you. It does NOT matter what I post you disagree and that is fine it is your prerogative. As I have said I could post about kittens, puppies, and sunshine and you will turn it into something Trump did wrong, and in this case my friend who is crippled. Yes, it is all her fault what was she doing crossing the street legally with 30 or more people. And the irony of it all is you have no say so in this country. You don't vote here. How about fixing Canada's problems first and after that move to the United States and fix ours. Prayers for you Marty to be safe and happy. Mank I went back and read what I posted because I was pretty certain I did not do anything to intentionally besmirch your friends. I did use that situation as a comparison to risk/benefit analysis and maybe that was too close to home for you so if it was I will apologize if it sounded that way. That was not the intent at all. I even specifically said the speeding car was to blame. Then I went into a “theoretical” example of preventing something bad happening. Like I said probably too personal for you and I can understand that but it was not what my message was. Where I was going was in the final paragraph which I’m going to guess you did not read or were not in any frame of mind to comprehend it by then. You ask why I keep expressing my opinions about Trump here when I can’t vote. I do have interests, friends and family in the US. So I am interested. In my mind DT is the speeding car that is about to run a red light and put people in peril. Deep down I hope I can do something to prevent that.
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Post by MalcolmR on Oct 9, 2020 11:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by frodi on Oct 9, 2020 15:47:54 GMT -5
Oouch!
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